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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #540 on: November 19, 2015, 03:45:14 AM »
Man I hope it's not the KIPS seal.  I saw a post of yours where you said check the KIPS seal, so I ordered a new OEM one when I was putting in the exhaust valves I bought on eBay.  Of course knowing my luck I got the wrong one shipped to me.   :-D
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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #541 on: November 19, 2015, 03:47:59 AM »
Man I hope it's not the KIPS seal.  I saw a post of yours where you said check the KIPS seal, so I ordered a new OEM one when I was putting in the exhaust valves I bought on eBay.  Of course knowing my luck I got the wrong one shipped to me.   :-D

Or, the shaft is worn and won't seal even with a new seal  :-o
The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.

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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #542 on: November 19, 2015, 04:41:28 AM »
Even. With all new parts the shaft seal leaks....

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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #543 on: November 19, 2015, 05:05:43 AM »
Man I hope it's not the KIPS seal.  I saw a post of yours where you said check the KIPS seal, so I ordered a new OEM one when I was putting in the exhaust valves I bought on eBay.  Of course knowing my luck I got the wrong one shipped to me.   :-D

The kips seal leaking  is not going to cause any issues with the motor running/ only makes it a little  harder to do a leak down test

A bit of temporary sealer {gasket maker} around the kipps seal/shaft area should be plenty good enough for the psi/vacuum that will be used in test/
 use sealer that goes hard pretty quick and clean area well
Leave the shaft in the IN/closed position when sealing as you be able to pull out shaft a little to remove any excess sealent 

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« Reply #544 on: November 19, 2015, 05:16:23 AM »
Man I hope it's not the KIPS seal.  I saw a post of yours where you said check the KIPS seal, so I ordered a new OEM one when I was putting in the exhaust valves I bought on eBay.  Of course knowing my luck I got the wrong one shipped to me.   :-D

The kips seal leaking  is not going to cause any issues with the motor running/ only makes it a little  harder to do a leak down test

A bit of temporary sealer {gasket maker} around the kipps seal/shaft area should be plenty good enough for the psi/vacuum that will be used in test/
 use sealer that goes hard pretty quick and clean area well
Leave the shaft in the IN/closed position when sealing as you be able to pull out shaft a little to remove any excess sealent 

+1.  That's how I do it

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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #545 on: November 19, 2015, 05:19:45 AM »
I'll try that.  I may not get to the leakdown/vacuum test before I try the carburetor swap with Danger on Sunday.  November is normally a slow month at work, but not this year.  I've been busier than a one-legged man in a butt kicking contest.  
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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #546 on: November 19, 2015, 12:28:40 PM »
It will be cold Sunday, might be an issue for testing.  Watch the weather, if you want, might postpone
till later in the afternoon.
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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #547 on: November 20, 2015, 06:09:41 AM »
Unfortunately my son swims in the afternoon. Swim meets are where your free time goes to die.  :-D
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« Reply #548 on: November 20, 2015, 11:19:02 AM »
Kid work pays BIG dividends in the long run. Don't ever pass that up.
I'll be here, call and I will open the gate.
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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #549 on: November 22, 2015, 03:54:32 AM »
#1  Pulled the carburetor from the parts bike and cleaned it.
#2  Stuck it in Umberto's steel frame k5.
#3  Priceless
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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #550 on: November 22, 2015, 04:23:43 AM »
What we learned today.
168 main
58 pilot
N82M needle
Needle clip centered in the 3rd slot
1.5 turns on the air screw
Elevation 1130
Temperature 43 Fahrenheit
This made his bike run well.
I should say well enough to determine his problem
is jetting or carburetor related not a motor problem.
His biked started on the 3 kick, sounded nice.  This gives
us a baseline to start at.  Need to test and do a plug reading.
What we "really" learned.
A well running SCF KX500 will wheelie on command!
When wheeling keep cargo pants pocket Velcro-ed shut
or you will dump your cell phone on the grass track.
I would like to say we let my old Labrador smell Umberto's
glove and found the phone but she's getting old and was having
fun digging for moles.  We found it on the straight-away where
Mr. Wheelie was having fun.


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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #551 on: November 22, 2015, 04:44:00 AM »
As well as the bike ran, I almost didn't mind losing my cell phone.   :-D  Thank you again Danger for letting me borrow your carb.  It restored my faith in the bike, and I can't wait to get the new needle and jets to make it run like that all the time!!

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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #552 on: November 22, 2015, 04:45:08 AM »
Oh, and my next purchase after the carb stuff is an over sized front brake rotor.  I want to see God, not meet him.   :-D
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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #553 on: November 22, 2015, 02:37:31 PM »
I was considering building you and sending you a carb. I'm glad Danger was able to help you.
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Re: Jetting!!! Again and again and again!
« Reply #554 on: November 22, 2015, 11:45:39 PM »
Thank you Sandblaster, I really appreciate the thought.  It was a great feeling to hear that thing sing for the first time. I was smiling from ear to ear all day.
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