HID Lighting?

[JustinSB]

I was running a battery powered HID on my bike for night races. I've had problems with the battery and I'm looking to power it off the bike. Has anyone ran a lighting coil on the 500 and have any recommendations?

I'm running a 35w HID that draws 3.5 amps. I was looking at running the Electrosport coil. http://www.electrosport.com/products/product-detail-521.php?source=googlebase

Any suggestions?

[BDI]

That coil will not put out enough power to run your Hid. Also you will need a battery to run your hid or the light will go out when the rpms are low. There was a guy on here that was threatening to building a good coil for the kx500 but we have not heard any more about it. I wish someone would build a NICE COIL for the K5 but so far no luck.

[alward25]

Still in progress.....engineers

That coil will not put out enough power to run your Hid. Also you will need a battery to run your hid or the light will go out when the rpms are low. There was a guy on here that was threatening to building a good coil for the kx500 but we have not heard any more about it. I wish someone would build a NICE COIL for the K5 but so far no luck.

[Monster Malibu1]

That would be cool to add a hid light to my bike when the coil becomes available.

[BDI]

Still in progress.....engineers

That coil will not put out enough power to run your Hid. Also you will need a battery to run your hid or the light will go out when the rpms are low. There was a guy on here that was threatening to building a good coil for the kx500 but we have not heard any more about it. I wish someone would build a NICE COIL for the K5 but so far no luck.

Cool . I sure wouldn't mind swapping my Hid between my Honda and my K5. It would be so cool ripping the dunes at nite with a reliable light with good output at every rpm. It makes me want to fiddle with the beast just thinking about it.

[JustinSB]

Dont take this the wrong way, I dont know what I'm really talking about here.

The coil is good for 35w right? The light is a 35w HID. So isn't 35w good for 35w?

And could I run the light off a battery which is constantly charging from the lighting coil?

I'm not trying to argue, just trying to make it work.

[Goat]

The coil wouldn't produce enough power to run a light and charge at the same time. Also the coil produces 35w at high rpm so when slowing down, idling, ect it will not produce enough power to keep the light going. I would think in order to run a light and charge a battery you would need like a 60w or bigger coil. To run properly even at idle.

[oic0]

Could you somehow regulate it to to some low amount and have it almost like trickle charging the battery to extend its life?

[JustinSB]

Could you somehow regulate it to to some low amount and have it almost like trickle charging the battery to extend its life?

Thats kind of what I was thinking. So you could run the light primarily off a battery, then trickle charge the battery to extend the battery life.

[BDI]

The rule of thumb is what ever your light draws your coils peak out put has to be twice that just to run the light. And yes you also need to charge the battery. HID lights are either on or off,either you have enough power to run it or you don't. So what will happen is if the coil puts out a peak of 35w that will be at a very high RPM so anything under that high RPM the light will go off. Now if you are running a battery the light will not do that until the battery dies but because the coil does not put out enough power to run the light and charge the battery then the battery will start to discharge as soon as you turn the light on.

[Johnniespeed]

  Does that lighting coil ouput A/C or D/C ?  I have a Moose lighting coil and never checked it. But if it is A/C and you are charging a battery, you will need to add a rectifier to convert from A/C to D/C.
  Does Eline still make that big alternator for the 500 ?

[Monster Malibu1]

Would we be able to run led lighting off the 35 watt coil?, I don't know much about the led lights but I was told they use very little pwer.

[alward25]

All power coming from the stator is AC current. You need a rectifier to convert it to DC current to power HID, which is why you need a battery.  Batteries are part of a DC current system. Eline does not make the 200w lighting system anymore due to build costs.  I guess the make more money building carbon fiber stuff.  Dc power is more consistent than AC because the light draws off the battery and the AC is basically pushing the current to the light based on the rpm.
Alex

  Does that lighting coil ouput A/C or D/C ?  I have a Moose lighting coil and never checked it. But if it is A/C and you are charging a battery, you will need to add a rectifier to convert from A/C to D/C.
  Does Eline still make that big alternator for the 500 ?

[BDI]

All power coming from the stator is AC current. You need a rectifier to convert it to DC current to power HID, which is why you need a battery.  Batteries are part of a DC current system. Eline does not make the 200w lighting system anymore due to build costs.  I guess the make more money building carbon fiber stuff.  Dc power is more consistent than AC because the light draws off the battery and the AC is basically pushing the current to the light based on the rpm.
Alex

  Does that lighting coil ouput A/C or D/C ?  I have a Moose lighting coil and never checked it. But if it is A/C and you are charging a battery, you will need to add a rectifier to convert from A/C to D/C.
  Does Eline still make that big alternator for the 500 ?

I know my opinion of the e-line coil is a harsh one and not shared by all. I was wondering if you could give us a hint as to what you guys have decided to do as far as coil design goes. Is it going to be based off the E-LINE or are you guys going to do something new.

[alward25]

Yes

All power coming from the stator is AC current. You need a rectifier to convert it to DC current to power HID, which is why you need a battery.  Batteries are part of a DC current system. Eline does not make the 200w lighting system anymore due to build costs.  I guess the make more money building carbon fiber stuff.  Dc power is more consistent than AC because the light draws off the battery and the AC is basically pushing the current to the light based on the rpm.
Alex

  Does that lighting coil ouput A/C or D/C ?  I have a Moose lighting coil and never checked it. But if it is A/C and you are charging a battery, you will need to add a rectifier to convert from A/C to D/C.
  Does Eline still make that big alternator for the 500 ?

I know my opinion of the e-line coil is a harsh one and not shared by all. I was wondering if you could give us a hint as to what you guys have decided to do as far as coil design goes. Is it going to be based off the E-LINE or are you guys going to do something new.