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Offline joker_fly

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The Monster 700cc(small teaser )
« on: June 03, 2010, 07:36:57 AM »
Hello

So i know this isent the right forum for this, but i want as many off you 2-stoke nutters as possible to know what im up to

I sold both my 500 bikes =( But i had a plan... A Evil one...

Zabel makes Two stroke engines for sidecar mx racing that are 700cc single cylinder engines...

So i started looking for one and found it =) a 2004 four speed 700cc monster.

Now i started looking for a frame that had the drive sprocket on the right side (or the wrong=)
and stumbled across a Husaberg 550 2003 with a broken camchain. Four strokes.... Well i got a good deal on it. And now it wont have a pesky Fourstroker it will have a zabel =)

Ive alredy coverd some ground and the angine sits in the swing mount and the other mounts will be fabed shortly

But i have a question the spockets line up but are 2mm off sideways See below

Sprocket ---> |
                    C
                     H
                      A
                       I
                       N
Rear Sproket--->|
               |-2MM-|      

Can i live with this or will this be two much ?

Please give me input
                    
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Offline Friar-Tuck

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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2010, 08:03:18 AM »
OOhh :-D

Hey Joker,
 I love it when a plan comes together!
  I have a similar problem with my 13T counter rubbing my case's...  Camm 22 had his countersprocket counter sunk and worked like a charm...
  I'll look for his post and piccy.  would this sound feasable?  That's alot of torque pulling the chain off-center.
Chain is not cheap, and sprockets would also suffer.
  Best of luck on the build & keep us up to date.. This sounds like a Very Cool Project.. I have only seen piccy's of the ATK.
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Offline bob larry

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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2010, 08:05:24 AM »
2mm should be fine...but I'm just guessing.  2cm and I'd be worried.
See if you can't bring the front sprocket out 2mm.or move the motor over 2mm

post some pics.......sounds like a cool project.

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Offline bigbellybob

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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 08:06:59 AM »
r the cases the same as the old KTM's?
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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 08:07:46 AM »
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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2010, 08:37:21 AM »
What if you mill the hub 1mm and and front sprocket 1mm. I don't like the idea of a thin front sprocket.
Your talking about a 75HP engine and to much torch
Or a adapter for your rear sprocket. Made one for a rear disk to at 2mm, maybe on this way you can lose 2mm.
Like the idea of this ride, watch out land speed record :wink:

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Offline teamwsr

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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 11:08:42 AM »
Hey joker_fly have you tried to walk the rim over, loosen and tighten the spokes so you pull the hub over. I and many others have done this with some rims for our hillcimb bikes. Some hubs are centered on the rims and some are offset. It doesn't work on all but it does work on some. Atk is selling the Zabel motor in its intimidator model so they are a good place for motor parts. I have a couple of buddys running the motors and they get their clutch packs and other parts from the dealer.

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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2010, 04:42:57 PM »
Those Zabel engines are based off of the liquid Maico engines.

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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2010, 04:05:12 AM »
two mm is only the thickness of a washer, I can't imagine it would cause you any problems.
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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2010, 04:24:08 AM »
in the length between the countersprocket and the rear sprocket there is probably 2-5mm of side slap when you are riding your bike anyways. i dont think that 2mm in that distance is worth messing with. i woudn't do anything with the 2mm if it were my bike.

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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2010, 04:50:50 AM »
ok thanks every one ill go with the route its not worht messing with

If it gives me hassels i will mill the hub

And tommorow the first pics will come =)

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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 07:34:37 AM »
What do you all think about something like this?
http://www.kxriders.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=13

That's what I would do as long as there isn't any clearance issues with the chain rubbing.

Offline NZ500

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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 09:40:31 AM »
Cool project! I look forward to those photos. Personally thinning the front sprocket like that is the last thing I'd consider doing. not much meat left on that for such a powerful motor

Offline meangreen500

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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2010, 04:03:21 PM »
 :-D :-D :-D d**n I want one went on their site 700cc 88 hp. that would be one badass desert bike,  :evil:

Offline joker_fly

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Re: The Monster 700cc
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2010, 07:22:14 PM »

This is how it looked when i got it - tank and seat


Wonder what the "Tools" are for =)


I will let the pics speak for them selfes








Small teaser Teaser


Any ideas for a carb ? the origanal bing 55 isent a wonder of calibration
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