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Crashman

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who know what pipe is this?
« on: October 08, 2008, 07:58:23 AM »
I guess it's fmf gnarly pipe but is it for honda cr500 or what? And how much you need to mod it in this case for example? thanks.

Offline Mick

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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2008, 08:20:35 AM »
AJ of Service Honda had mentioned he was getting Pro Circuit and FMF to build purpose built pipes for the KX500AF.  His earlier prototypes used modded CR500 pipes to complete the build.  I believe that picture is of an '08 Service Honda KX500AF (a Service Honda KX sounds strange??) but I don't know if those expantion chambers are purpose built yet or not?  And even if Service Honda recieves them from FMF like this I would prefer to see the two (CR / KX models) side by side.  I suspect FMF & PC would like to save a penny and use the CR models they already produce and just mod as neccessary.  That FMF looks oddly similar to a CR model Gnarly to me  :?
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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2008, 02:09:23 AM »
I guess it's fmf gnarly pipe but is it for honda cr500 or what? And how much you need to mod it in this case for example? thanks.

Hey, thats my bike!!

The pipe is an FMF made especially for AJ at Service Honda for his (my) KX500AF

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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2008, 02:46:39 AM »
Hey folks,

First post here be gentle. :-D

I am just about to start an AF conversion on a KX500 and am getting all the pieces together and im stuck on the exhaust, I have noticed a few KX500 conversions with the works type Pro circuit pipe ie not electro plated, does anyone have a part number for it from PC or are they modded CR pipes. :?

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Crashman

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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2008, 05:15:58 AM »
Hey folks,

First post here be gentle. :-D

I am just about to start an AF conversion on a KX500 and am getting all the pieces together and im stuck on the exhaust, I have noticed a few KX500 conversions with the works type Pro circuit pipe ie not electro plated, does anyone have a part number for it from PC or are they modded CR pipes. :?

Regards

I'm starting to believe that they are modded CR pipes....check this...??

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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2008, 05:27:30 AM »
If you do a search, you will find some information from AJ at Service Honda, he did say, at least in the begining that they were modded CR pipes. I have one of his and a cr500 pipe I modded, they look almost identical other than one is Pro Circuit and the other is FMF
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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2008, 07:39:53 AM »
The first photo is a Service Kawasaki (lol mick!)
2008 KX500AF

I made a couple prototype pipes for the test bike.
those did not go on customers bikes.

FMF did make  pipes and silencers specifically for this bike.
and all the 2007  and 2008 KX500AF models have FMF pipes made for that model installed on them.

yes they look similar (to the CR pipe) ,and should , ;)
since FMF used the general molds/stampings of a the CR500AF pipe they have made for us for almost ten years as a starting point.

This was a much closer starting place to make the new KX500 pipe from , than a traditional KX500 stamping.(way off)

yes FMF dynoed the varioius pipes and the design to ensure that  style stamping and mold where good fit for this engine.
it performs as good or better than a KX500 engine with an FMF OEM styled pipe.


I would be glad to sell anyone a KX500AF pipe and silencer  for
 thier own home conversions..
but of course i cannot gurantee fitment.
(you may not locate things exactly where i do in our bikes)
but it should be close or easy to make fit.
(if you can get the engine in the 450 frame ,this pipe wouldnt challenge you to fit it to your scoot?)


as far as being good handling and good power,
a local rider just smoked a local MX race in the Open A class
on an 08 model..
not a big deal but proves the bike was plenty competitive
against the  450's in mx.
(this rider was KX450F mounted earlier in the year )







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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2008, 09:42:21 AM »
Oops...I didn't know there was such a thing as Service Kawasaki.

I thought FMF would use the CR stampings to expedite production.  Sure are nice looking bikes.  I wish I could ride one.  Glad to here other guys are doing well competing on them.  Especially in the A Class.  I'm not an A rider but I've done very well this year in the B class, especially this fall.  500AFs are amazing track bikes  :-o
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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2008, 09:51:29 AM »
Hi again,

Thats great AJ I will get intouch with your UK rep, clive i think his name is. Another question is do you do the pipe in the unelectro plated form ? Im old school and prefer that look, I know it takes some looking after but i think its worth it... Cheers

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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2008, 11:52:55 AM »
I doubt it very much.  FMF and Pro Circuit do a run of pipes for Service Honda and that's it.  So I imagine SH orders say 100 pipes for a year I believe?  And they come plated for ease of maintanence.  SH doesn't produce enough bikes to have copius amounts of plated or non plated options.  Especially since 99% of riders don't want a "works finish" pipe.  Remember SH has to keep some pipes in stock for replacements.  And FMF / PC will probably only do runs of 100 or greater...per plated or non plated pipe I imagine.  But thank gosh for the replacement stock SH does keep.  The replacement PC pipe I ordered this summer was built better than the unit that it came with in 2003.  It's nice to see PC continuing efforts to improve models for these bikes.  Shoot it probably makes another horsepower with it's improved design...as if it needed it  :roll:
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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2008, 03:14:41 PM »
can i buy a pipe from you aj and how much  thanks stewart

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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2008, 04:38:07 AM »
George-
sorry, i only have the plated ones for the KX500AF.

like Mick mentions i have to purchase a minimum run of pipes,
FMF and PC really dont want to stock small quantity order pipes
(100 is very small quantity)
so they just make the run for Service,,
 i do stock plenty,(normally about 50 at any given point in time )
in case a customer needs one.


Mick, no worries,, lol there is a *Service* of about every brand,and color,  we just happen to be better known for the Honda side of things.

Maybe now we awill jhave a little more exposer on the green side
(and too bad yam dint make a good water cooled open class 2 stroke engine eh?)


Stewart..
yes certainly.
you can order either a KX500AF pipe or silencer  anytime thru our 800 line or thru email-

Mailorder Parts:
1.800.828.5498
Parts@servicehonda.com

tell the operator line code:
 
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part number(s)
KX500AF FMF plated gnarly pipe -  part no 122000   price 229.00
KX500AF FMF silencer -                part no  122001   price 119.00 
KX500AF FMF Q silencer (96dB) -  part no  122002   price  159.00




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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2008, 08:38:27 AM »
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Mick, no worries,, lol there is a *Service* of about every brand,and color,  we just happen to be better known for the Honda side of things.
man i would love to see a orange *Service* 550
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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2008, 08:58:42 AM »
now that i think about it i would really like a 09 ktm with the 82hp monster maico 685 in it. any chance we could *Service* something like that?
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Re: who know what pipe is this?
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2008, 10:38:25 AM »
man i would love to see a orange *Service* 550
dang! now your really on to something with that bigbellybob. that would be awesome!  MADDOGGY