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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2015, 09:37:41 PM »
the rings break if they have the right age after some riding...  i had the same on a friends 97 kx250 some years ago. it starts with the snapring and at least the shift fork and 2 gears for 4th and 5th were also damaged, ...

like foxx.. said the rings are cheaper than transbox-damage...
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2015, 03:35:38 AM »
Is there a better snap ring to use that will bold up better than stock?
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2015, 03:43:20 AM »
Quote from: shooky on March 15, 2015, 03:35:38 AM
Is there a better snap ring to use that will bold up better than stock?

not that I'm aware of...but I could be wrong.
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2015, 08:07:14 AM »
I only use the stock ones.
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2015, 11:37:33 AM »
If work has been done on the tranny before the snap ring/s could have been installed wrong. I know on Suzuki the snap ring has a radius side and a sharp edged side. The radius side faces the gear so that the sharp edge or unfinished side butts up against the groove of the shaft to keep it in place. If the radius side faces away from the gear this puts more stress on the snap ring. I'm assuming that Kawasaki may be the same.
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2015, 11:51:05 AM »
Like this?  :lol:



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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2015, 12:17:41 PM »
Quote from: sandblaster on March 15, 2015, 11:51:05 AM
Like this?  :lol:





10-4! Exactly! Except brand new snap rings for Suzuki will be that way but a slight radius on one side.
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2015, 12:21:31 PM »
Yep, new kx500 clips are the same.
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2015, 12:34:00 PM »
Quote from: sandblaster on March 15, 2015, 12:21:31 PM
Yep, new kx500 clips are the same.
I kind of figured as much. Install them wrong especially on a 500 and your tranny is doomed to pre-mature failure! So many little things that aren't in the book. My engine builder here in Vegas clued me in on that one. His primary bread and butter is suspension especially for desert but the guy knows engines too!
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2015, 01:49:01 PM »
Great info, thanks
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2015, 04:12:00 PM »
the oem-snaprings are much more durable as any other on the market..  its the power of the engine, that chews them up . they could break after some months or last 10 years in the engine . its also the intensity of riding .. much riding on pro level for example =  much more shorter live for some parts of the bike...  :wink:
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2015, 05:23:01 PM »
Choice of trans oil and frequency of changes could also have a positive or negative affect.
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2015, 11:35:48 PM »
What a good oil to run in the trans
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2015, 12:48:02 AM »
Quote from: shooky on March 15, 2015, 11:35:48 PM
What a good oil to run in the trans

everyone will have their own opinion on this question...
I ran Bel-Ray Gear Saver and Motul for years in the tranny, which are good...but you're paying for the name more than anything. 
I run what the manual calls for these days...plain old 10w-40, change it often, you won't have any problems what-so-ever, and you'll save a ton a money.
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Re: popping out of third gear
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2015, 03:16:41 AM »
I've ran everything from 10/40 to expensive big names ect but now I run ***** and change it often...  :-D
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