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Offline Foxx4Beaver

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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2014, 07:18:21 AM »
ahhhh....here it is, I was way off....read this, maybe it'll be your problem, maybe not :?

http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,8219.0.html
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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2014, 07:47:50 AM »
The pump always works unless the components are bad.
Quick and easy  :wink:
26.99 at harbor freight

Roger that. Thank you. I knew of this tool and was considering getting one. I'm assuming you open-up the bleeder valve down on the bottom.. hook this thing to it... leave the Master cylinder cap off... suction this thing... being mindful to not let the reservoir go below the fill mark, yes?

I felt surprised to think the hose would be the issue, but didn't know what else to think given steps I'd tried.

Yes, that is what we do.
But if after doing that it still doesn't operate correctly then it can be you have a different issue.
Sometimes it can be the hose being too soft and other times it can be a warped caliper piston or hole causing the problem.
The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.

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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2014, 07:49:21 AM »
sorry...it wasn't you I was quoting G....I was making a smart a$$ comment to sandblaster :-D   

I see. Oh well...don't be surprised if the Candy Man shows up looking for a place to stay  :evil:
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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2014, 07:52:14 AM »
sorry...it wasn't you I was quoting G....I was making a smart a$$ comment to sandblaster :-D   

I see. Oh well...don't be surprised if the Candy Man shows up looking for a place to stay  :evil:


haha....sure, I've got the perfect place for him....right in the sight of my 30-06 :evil: :-D
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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2014, 07:58:14 AM »
Come on fellas. Im a lover not a fighter.

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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2014, 08:03:11 AM »
Come on fellas. Im a lover not a fighter.


it's all in fun.... :-D
I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again....feel free to take a jab at me anytime....just leave mother/father/sibling comments out of it :wink:
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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2014, 12:43:31 PM »
I have had good luck with HEL Performance. They can make them longer if you have tall bars.

http://www.moto-heaven.com/store/product.php?mode=add&productid=16709&cat=480&page=

I agree ID; I had a hell of a time with my '93;
*new disc
*new pads
*rebuilt master cylinder
*bleed up
*bleed down
*new levers
*tied off brake and left overnight; and still spongy.

In the end the only thing not replaced was the hose; got a Hell one off Wemoto and it was solid enough to ride it up the back of the ute and brake in time.  :evil:

With the inverted forks (shouldn't be a problem with your model) I had to modify it; I imagine it might just bolt straight on to your model though.

I'm trying to keep my Katie as original as possible; but front brakes?  You can't compromise...



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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2014, 04:20:40 AM »
I have had problems with the older style master cylinders, if you want good brakes get a a newer 250f/450f master cylinder or heavan forbid a honda master. lever position makes a difference also, there is an adjuster for lever position if it is in to far it doesn't feel like you have any brake. thinking further, I used to replace all the front lines on my 250's and 125's, I used Galfer and fast line, both were good.
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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2014, 05:33:36 PM »
I just went thru a whole bottle of brake fluid trying the vacuum bleeder method, with the one from Harbor Freight. I could never get it to stop having bubbles appear at the bleeder valve... but... to be honest I'm pretty sure that's just air sucking in from where the tube is pushed onto the bleeder valve.

Remember... had same feeling of could never get it to feel tight and not spongy... installed caliper rebuild kit.  Try again... got back again to same feeling of mildly taught but mostly spongy, where...again... you  could squeeze the lever in until it touches the handlebar.  Tore-down, cautiously cleaned inside master-cylinder being uber careful not to scratch inside that tube... installed master cylinder rebuild kit... God d**n it... back to only being able to get to a certain amount of tightness in the feel, still quite spongy, still can squeeze enough to have lever touch the handlebar.

NOTE: I have my KX500 right beside it so I can reference that one to know how the lever is supposed to feel.

ALSO NOTE: I DO NOT observe any leaking brake fluid!  Not emanating from anywhere in the caliper area... not anywhere around the master cylinder. (There's a teensy bit of spillage at the bleeder valve from removing/placing the bleeder tube, but that's it... and I wiped that area dry before beginning procedure today with the vacuum bleeder.
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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2014, 05:55:38 PM »
ahhhh....here it is, I was way off....read this, maybe it'll be your problem, maybe not :?

http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,8219.0.html

Hrmm... I remember thinking that these spring clips seemed to fit in there in quite a loose fashion. At least... before putting the pads in anyway.

Ugh... since I'm going about this whole thing slowly anyway... where can I order a new set of those spring clips?  And where can I order a new steel-braided brake line for this thing? 

If there is not a clear 1990 KDX200 front brake hose item I can directly select out there... could some unbelievably nice soul out there tell me whatever measurement info I need to barf-up and mention to which-ever vendor I end-up having to acquire the brake line from?


Sigh.... in the meantime I guess I'll move on to putting in the petcock rebuild kit.

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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2014, 08:37:17 PM »
ahhhh....here it is, I was way off....read this, maybe it'll be your problem, maybe not :?

http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,8219.0.html

where can I order a new set of those spring clips? 

the spring is still available from Kawie...part# 92081-1341.
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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2014, 05:14:22 AM »
If someone could provide me with all the information I'd need so that I may order a new braided steel brake line as well, I'd definitely appreciate it.

My preliminary research did not find any options where it specifically stated a particular item to order that would fit my bike.
'97 PC800 + '96 KX 500 + '90 KDX 200 + 2000 XR50R (for the lil guy!)

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Re: Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2014, 07:26:04 AM »
OBSERVATION NOTES: Observed the caliper and pads and their movement as I actuated the lever.  The inner pad seems to always remain basically resting against the rotor... and upon squeezing the lever... the outer pad becomes advanced inward toward the rotor.

It is not supposed to work this way... correct?  aren't both sides supposed to move away and toward the rotor upon squeezing and releasing the lever?

Does this observation seem to jive with the pad spring issue noted by in this link?
http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php/topic,8219.0.html

How do I go about ordering Galfer Steel braided lines for this model? ('90 KDX 200)? 

Do I just have to know how long of a line is needed? If so, how long is needed? Do you have to order their own Banjo bolts and stuff like that as well?
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