Best Vendor / Brand for Steel Braided front brake line KDX 200 '90

[TheGDog]

I rebuilt front master cylinder, rebuilt front caliper. Cannot get the front line to feel right even after HOURS spent bleeding front line. Only thing left is the hose. Reason I rebuilt master cylinder was beforehand also could not get line to feel right after tons of time and fluid wasted Doing typical bleed procedure. Bleeding the rear was super easy. Had to do that one after got new rotor for it. New rotor on front too.

[sandblaster]

Just curious, are you using a vacuum pump to bleed?

[Foxx4Beaver]

I've always gravity bled the front systems...that's even how I do my trucks...and I've always had perfect and very precise brakes as a result.
You very well could be on the right track thinking the hose is weak, and is flexing excessively, giving you a s**tty feeling.
I don't know who makes the better steel braided lines...as I've never needed one.

[Motorrad]

I have all mine custom made locally.

[alward25]

have you tried reverse bleeding?  Sometimes you can get a little bubble in the master cylinder that does not want to clear.

[ID KX500]

I have had good luck with HEL Performance. They can make them longer if you have tall bars.

http://www.moto-heaven.com/store/product.php?mode=add&productid=16709&cat=480&page=

[TheGDog]

No... unfortunately not using a vacuum bleeder.  But... I've never had to on any other bike I've ever bled the brakes on, and they always seemed to bleed just fine. Including my KX500. 

sandblaster, is using a vacuum bleeder the way you personally most normally perform this task?

[TheGDog]

I have had good luck with HEL Performance. They can make them longer if you have tall bars.

http://www.moto-heaven.com/store/product.php?mode=add&productid=16709&cat=480&page=

Clicking your link goes to a form that only has as choices the models of the KX line.

[sandblaster]

Sometimes complete brake systems sit in our shop from months to years.
In that time they sometimes stop working.
Since we don't have time for doing the gravity method we use the vacuum pump.
We have also had times when the gravity method just wouldn't work.
The pump always works unless the components are bad.
Quick and easy 
26.99 at harbor freight

[TheGDog]

The pump always works unless the components are bad.
Quick and easy  
26.99 at harbor freight

Roger that. Thank you. I knew of this tool and was considering getting one. I'm assuming you open-up the bleeder valve down on the bottom.. hook this thing to it... leave the Master cylinder cap off... suction this thing... being mindful to not let the reservoir go below the fill mark, yes?

I felt surprised to think the hose would be the issue, but didn't know what else to think given steps I'd tried.

[Foxx4Beaver]

Since we don't have time for doing the gravity method we use the vacuum pump.
We have also had times when the gravity method just wouldn't work.

surprising....my dad was a mechanic back in the 60's through the 80's....and he showed me that trick when no one was around to help bleed the lines.
I've gravity bled hundreds of brakes consisting of cars/trucks/busses/bikes...never had one not bleed out perfectly. I thought I might have had an issue bleeding the lines on my 04 F150 last fall, but that turned out to be a collapsed rubber line...one of Fords poor designs....but I won't bleed brakes any other way. It only takes 10 minutes per side....I can do the bikes in 5.
Are you sure you're doing it right?

[TheGDog]

Are you sure you're doing it right?

Bleeding brakes is reDONKulously easy! 

Master cylinder cap is off... bleeder valve below is snug... pump-pump-pump until feel resistance... hold lever in, do not let it go... un-snug bleeder valve...wait a slight moment... re-snug... then you can relinquish hold on front brake lever and repeat process.

It's always worked like that in the past on the bikes I've done it on.

[Foxx4Beaver]

sorry...it wasn't you I was quoting G....I was making a smart a$$ comment to sandblaster    
we all have our own ways of doing things....I'll stick with my way since it's never let me down...and there's no work involved my way, other than keeping the reservoir filled.

[TheGDog]

sorry...it wasn't you I was quoting G.

Thank having been said... I'm stating the procedure correctly... yes?

[Foxx4Beaver]

yes...you are doing it one of the correct ways...correctly
If I remember correctly...I read that Motorrad had a Hell of a time getting his brakes to "feel" right before too...I don't remember if it was the front or backs....but for some reason "caliper pins" come to mind.
Maybe he'll chime back in and tell us the story.