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Offline bige

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premix ratio
« on: January 06, 2012, 12:09:15 PM »
is anyone running a premix ratio of 50:1? i know ktm recomends this in a 250cc-300cc

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Re: premix ratio
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 01:09:35 PM »
yes, with amsoil interceptor and race gas.
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Re: premix ratio
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 01:51:37 PM »
900:1

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Re: premix ratio
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 04:20:08 PM »
900:1?    WWWHHHEEEEEEE!!!!  :-D
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The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.

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Re: premix ratio
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2012, 05:17:18 PM »
I wish there was an icon on here that was a head shake....
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2012, 06:41:47 PM »
wondered how that would go over    :lol: :lol:


40:1 that I run still scares the crap out of me..  :|


And going from 40 to 50 is a loss of 20% oil..   Lots don't calculate percentage change between these  ratio numbers...

Think my math is right 16oz to 5 gal is 40.  12.8 to 50..       16-12.8=3.2

16 X x = 3.2.       3.2/16=0.2.     So.  20%


Also incase you were curious.  It's 36% less oil than the 32:1 that the kaw manual wants
That's a big percentage..
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Offline Polar-Bus

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Re: premix ratio
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 09:00:53 PM »
is anyone running a premix ratio of 50:1? i know ktm recomends this in a 250cc-300cc

A lot of woods racers will run 50:1, as woods bikes see far lighter engine loads. Most casual riders run around 40:1 .  Run anything but 32:1  unless your engine see consistant heavy loading and higher rpm's .  My CR125 shifter kart spends 80% of it's time out on the track at 12,300 rpm's and I prudently run  24:1   :-o
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Re: premix ratio
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2012, 07:01:21 AM »
20% less oil sounds scary to me. i have always mixed at 32:1in my 250 yz but was figuring that might be a little to much oil in a 500 but you cant go wrong with excess oil. i ride single track and trails so it dont get run hard, just wished there were some mx tracks here where i live.

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2012, 07:28:03 AM »
 Husqvarna did some testing in the mid 70's that was very interesting. They put 3 identical stock engines on a dyno and ran them for several days at varying RPM and load conditions. Then both motors were torn down and inspected. The engine running CASTOR based oil had the least wear, followed by the synthetic oil, and finally the engine running standard 2-cycle oil.
A second test they performed was to run synthetic in 2 identical engines and one was run at 24:1, the other was run at 50:1 The engine that ran 24:1 had less piston skirt wear, and less rod bearing wear, but had the same main roller bearing wear as the engine run at 50:1.

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Re: premix ratio
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2012, 11:19:16 AM »
I wonder how a windowed piston would have affected the second test between the 24:1 and 50:1.

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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2012, 12:06:21 PM »
I wonder how a windowed piston would have affected the second test between the 24:1 and 50:1.

Huskys had windowed pistons

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Re: premix ratio
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2012, 12:26:51 PM »
And so they did  :-o
82 Husqvarna XC430 piston.

The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.

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Re: premix ratio
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2012, 01:09:33 PM »
50:1  Golden Spectro. Great performance and reliability since 1989 ( when I switched from Bel-Ray ). Bought some Amsoil Interceptor ran one tank full and went back to the Spectro.
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2012, 01:16:37 PM »
And so they did  :-o
82 Husqvarna XC430 piston.



Yep..   trust me.. I have around 20+ husky pistons layin about..