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Offline tkeen511

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2015 kx 250f issues
« on: August 13, 2016, 01:49:53 AM »
So this last March I bought a brand new leftover 2015 kx 250f. I did all the proper break in, oil changed every ride, oil filter every other ride, air filter not necessarily always tempted with but it gets inspected before every ride. Anyways, 6 hours comes around and it develops a terrible knock like I've never heard before. Take it back to the dealership I got it from because I wanted nothing to do with fixing that out of my pocket. Turns out somebody at Kawasaki made a mistake when assembling it, they left some sort of steel fastener loose somewhere between the air boot and the cylinder, which made its way into the cylinder. So my piston rammed the piece of steel repeatedly into the cylinder head, destroyed the head (especially the cast aluminum pieces on the outside). Kawasaki determined it was their fault, replaced my head, valves, everything in the head basically, and my piston. Left kinda a sour taste in my mouth that this even happened in the first place to the only new bike I've ever bought, and the 2nd 4 stroke. Anyways, fast forward to 22 hours (mind you, it had a new head at 6.) and bike won't start. Turns out the valves are stuck shut, no clearance whatsoever even with a .0005 feeler gage. I do my best detective work to figure out why, air box itself is a little dirty, air filter is sub par, but I inspect air boot and see absolutely no trace of anything getting past the air filter, and no signs are leading to it being from dirty air. I have a temperature sensor on the engine and it never goes above the target range, never pisses coolant, never had a problem with it getting too hot. So anyways, I shimmed the valves, bike started fine and ran fine. Now here I am at 28.4 hours, bike won't start again. Ok pull the valve cover, check for clearance, none whatsoever. This is just in the intake valves, the exhaust valves have had no issues. But if I'm going to replace the valves, I may as well replace all of them. Now does anybody have good luck with any particular valve brand? I'm worried since stock valves are titanium, once whatever coating is on there gets worn off the valves life is essentially done. Should I go titanium? Stainless? Should I go oem or is somebody else making higher quality stuff? Has anybody ever had something like this happen to them before? The dealership offered me a discount on oem parts, anybody think this could be related to a lingering issue from what happened at 6 hours? Bike rarely sees the rev limiter, and gets absolutely babied.
14 250 sx, 98/14 kx 300 afc, 91 kx 500, 72 s2 350, 11 ktm 250xcw, 10 crf 250x, 97 Montesa 315r, couple other bikes

Offline FL_Sharpshooter

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Re: 2015 kx 250f issues
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2016, 05:18:28 AM »
Sounds like you're just incredibly unlucky, sorry to hear. If you're looking for the very best valves in the business, the Del West valves would be your best bet (titanium). I've heard stainless valves causes power loss, but who knows.

Offline KXDINO

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Re: 2015 kx 250f issues
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2016, 12:20:40 PM »
an average rider will not feel a power loss going to stainless valves , i have tried it , and the stainless will last much longer , i would get the guides replaced with the real good ones to , i have seen heads last twice as long easy with the good stuff put in , sorry to hear what happen to your engine but these things happen , get the head done right , stainless inlets at least they come with stiffer springs , good guides and good machining , you be happier in the long run .

Offline tkeen511

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Re: 2015 kx 250f issues
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2016, 01:39:43 PM »
Well got the head off, still couldn't get any feeler Gage's in, but when i used brake parts cleaner to test if anything could make it through, it went right through the intake valves when they were supposed to be "shut". Which tells me my seats needed to be machined. So anyways, the head got shipped off tonight to mxtime in Indianna to have the valve seats machined. He also makes his own stainless valves, supposedly pretty good but I'm going to do some more research on which brand to use. Will post back up here when I receive the head and will write a report on his quality
14 250 sx, 98/14 kx 300 afc, 91 kx 500, 72 s2 350, 11 ktm 250xcw, 10 crf 250x, 97 Montesa 315r, couple other bikes