Thanks Guys, I had read the post on ATF earlier, my conclusion on that is that If it was better the factory would recommend it. They build the trannies so seems like they would know a little about them, IMO. Just wanted to see what you guys were running successfully. I am Running Bell Ray Gear Saver in my 04. That's what the guy that owned the bike before me was putting in it. Haven't really put a ton of time on it so can't really tell anything about longevity. I run motorex in my 4T, obviously a different beast. Bel Ray 80wt it is. Thank you Guys