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I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« on: January 13, 2011, 04:09:38 AM »
Hello all.
I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
http://www.faliconcranks.com/1pc.html
They do not make them at this time but they may be willing to make some if I get them the dimensions and if we can order enough of them.
I know there may be some who would like them, but how many here are willing to actually buy them?
I wouldn't think they would be cheap but if we can develop another high quality source for them other than OEM, I'm all for keeping the K5 alive  :lol:
Let me know what you all think.

As a side note, I seem to remember someone had a CAD drawing of a rod.
I thought it was for the K5.
If you have it and don't mind sharing I can send it to Falicon for a cost estimate.
If not, I'll have to wait till I get a new rod and make the drawing myself  8-)
« Last Edit: January 13, 2011, 04:41:37 AM by sandblaster »
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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2011, 04:15:06 AM »
If it keeps our k5 alive for another 10 years I'm definitely in on a couple.
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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2011, 04:28:27 AM »
i would buy 1, ready for the next rebuild :-D

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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2011, 08:42:01 AM »
 Great Idea Blaster!
   I would love to say I would buy one, but something always seems to crop up...
  I'd surely do what I could if someone orders and can't ante up.  Put me down to buy overstock!  :?
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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2011, 09:05:21 AM »
I'm getting all the info together so we'll see what happens.
I hoping for the best but prepared for the worst.... Access Denied.....
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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2011, 10:50:28 AM »
the wrist pin hole is 24mm , the crank pin hole is 33mm , the length from center to center of the 2 holes is 145mm , the width of the rod top and bottom is 22mm and the crank pin is 26mm x 54.6mm and there are 2 thrust washers . I hope this will help its from the ProX catalog . I would definetly be interested in at least 1 maybe 2 if the price is right also think Roostdaddy and Doldguy maybe on board also Roost and I hace some buddies that maybe on board.CBX
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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2011, 10:52:52 AM »
Thanks.
This is what they were asking for:
Yes, we would need the following measurements from the rod:

   1. Inside diameter of the small end
   2. Inside diameter of the big end
   3. Width of the small end
   4. Width of the big end
   5. Distance from the ?bottom? of the small end to the ?top? of the big end (the best way to do this is to ?pinch? the rod with calipers. Try to make sure you get this measurement as accurate as possible)

  For the pin, washers, and bearing we just need:

     1. Outside diameter of the pin
    2. Length of the pin
    3. Thickness of the washers

  We don?t actually need any measurements for the bearing since we can figure that out once we have the rod and pin dimensions.
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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2011, 11:21:36 AM »
ID of small end is 24mm, ID of big end is 33mm, width of both small & big is 22mm, distance from bottom of small end to top of big end is 116.5mm or distance from center to center small to big is 145mm, the outside diameter of the pin is 26mm , the length of the pin is 54.6mm not sure about the width of the thrust washers.CBX
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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2011, 12:23:35 PM »
Hopefully someone can help with the thrust washer info. PLEASE!!!!  :roll:
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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2011, 12:45:19 PM »
What kind of tolerance is needed to hold those dimensions?

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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2011, 12:51:28 PM »
Good question.
I'm sure there must be some sort of industry tolerance but what it is exactly would probably depend on which part of the rod, bearing, or pin you are specifying.
Falicon didn't ask for tolerances, only the basic dimensions.
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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2011, 12:39:33 AM »
I would probably chip in for one too.
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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2011, 03:12:44 AM »
GREETINGs, Put me in for SEVERAL :-D Thank You  L.W.

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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2011, 07:04:51 AM »
I called CP/Carrillo rods about a KX125 piston kit they offer and while I was on the phone with them I ask about a price on knife cut Carrillo Rods , He said if you order 1 to 40 they would be $378.50 you get a price break on 40 or more , now that was retail pricing and I 'm sure they have a jobber rate ,because he stressed to me that it was retail pricing ,. I'm pretty sure you could get a better deal though the business.CBX
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Re: I contacted Falicon about purchasing some knife rods.
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2011, 07:50:52 AM »
Looks like its time to get the long rod motor going. That price is good on a nice part with low numbers.