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Offline 5004life

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87 kx 500
« on: March 06, 2010, 12:05:19 PM »
ok im goin to putting my kx 5hundy together here soon ...i took the powervalve apart to clean it and for some reason didnt pay attention to how it was put together lol but i have a manual and put it back together jus like it said and for some reason it doessent look right so i took some pics of it to see wat ur guys opinion on it was ......and also would synthetic amsoil grease work for lubing the powervalve parts?

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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2010, 12:09:45 PM »
fully closed position with the rod pushed all the way in

fully open position with the rod all the way out

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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2010, 08:44:44 AM »
 yeah they look ok
i assume the timing marks are line up exactly?   the flywheel side kips valve will look wrong on the closed position
this is due to 87 valves being identical but fitted to different sides

the recomended grease for the kips is molybdenum dilsulfide grease

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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 08:51:23 AM »
thanx man i have been wondering about that valve for a while ...but where do i get this grease? my local moto shop recommended this waterproof bel ray grease but idk and we got the amsoil grease where i work.. for cheap

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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 11:20:34 PM »
I THINK YOUR PV TIMING IS OUT,JUST HAD A GANDER AT MY 86 AND WHEN THE ROD IS ALL THE WAY IN,YOU CANNOT SEE THE HOLE IN THE VALVE ON THE FLYWHEEL SIDE.WHEN THE ROD IS OUT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH THE VALVES INTO THE BARREL.HTH.
And lo, I did loft the front wheel and carried it forth to the unbelievers, and cast it down before them and said unto them ''look now upon the might of my throttle control ye pitiful cretinous ones''
And the unbelievers did quake in their boots....

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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 03:38:41 AM »
i wouldnt know how thats possible i have the notches on the valves lined up directly with the notches on the rod

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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 04:47:10 AM »
if they are open when the rod is out I wouldnt worry too much, maybe the pics were at a different angle than i thought.
And lo, I did loft the front wheel and carried it forth to the unbelievers, and cast it down before them and said unto them ''look now upon the might of my throttle control ye pitiful cretinous ones''
And the unbelievers did quake in their boots....

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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2010, 05:56:56 AM »
thanx man i have been wondering about that valve for a while ...but where do i get this grease? my local moto shop recommended this waterproof bel ray grease but idk and we got the amsoil grease where i work.. for cheap

last time i put in valves i used copper grease spray [ not as thick as tub]  should be very easy to get
i put a small bit of standard grease on kips rod output seal
i cant see a problem using it     but any opinions welcome
 

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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2010, 12:29:50 PM »
thanx for your help

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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 12:51:58 PM »
so i take it nobody objects the idea of using regular wolfs head red grease for my powervalve?

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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2010, 01:10:19 PM »
so i take it nobody objects the idea of using regular wolfs head red grease for my powervalve?


 The guys that wrote the Kawasaki factory service manual do.

 They call for a molybdenum disulfide grease. Much better suited for the high temperatures in that area of the engine.
 
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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2010, 02:43:18 AM »
so i take it nobody objects the idea of using regular wolfs head red grease for my powervalve?


 The guys that wrote the Kawasaki factory service manual do.

 They call for a molybdenum disulfide grease. Much better suited for the high temperatures in that area of the engine.
 
Larry
where do i get it and is there a brand name i should search for

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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2010, 04:44:44 AM »
 i think the moly grease your looking  is used in cv joints of cars
 this i the copper grease spray i used [did not have a manual at the time] its got added graphite for even better lubrication    ,
we used to use copper grease  in excavator hydraulic  breakers,  now  they use moly grease  as a cheaper option
 anybody see any problems in using this,
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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2010, 03:31:55 AM »
thank u

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Re: 87 kx 500
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2010, 04:17:59 AM »
you probably better using the recommended grease
if u do a google search on the moly grease it will give u loads of info on the grease and where to get,
i live i the UK so u probadly  have different brands to there in the US

i though the copper grease spray was a good option for me cos my 88 valves were pretty worn and thought they could be expose to a little more heat , 
 
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