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Offline 95formula847

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Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« on: September 14, 2009, 05:39:36 AM »
went ridin this weekend. My bud blew his KX250 up in the first 30min of riding. So I gave him my kx500 to ride and I rode my uncles cr500 for the weekend. We got about 6 hours of riding in (time constraints suck). Which also made things worse. The cr500 ran about 20 times better than my kX5. Had me pretty mad. I need to get the ol kX5 running good or soon im switching to a cr500.

The cr was smoother/idled like a champ, more comfortable, better handling IMO, had way more power (hopefully my kX5 just isn't running right), has a way way better designed kick start, and just plain old destroyed my bike in every way. Someone please tell me KX500's should run with a cr500 or im getting rid of mine. Not one time did the cr500 give me an ounce of trouble. It started first kick and never shut off or bogged ever. I cant once say the same for my KX5. The thing breaks in some way every time I take it out.

I need motivation cause I love the kawis...... but that cr was evil.

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Offline martinfan30

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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2009, 07:59:18 AM »
Just depends what you want to do with your riding. I've ridden a CR5 and didn't like it in the desert where I ride. It makes good power, but seems more explosive. The KX5's power delivery is broader, smoother. Actually makes more power. Your KX5 may be in need of an O/H.
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Offline 95formula847

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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2009, 08:24:50 AM »
I just did the top end a week ago. I at least a comparable bike to the cr500
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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2009, 08:54:20 AM »
I rode my friends Cr500 (87 I think, maybe 86) a few weeks ago. It was harder to start, not kick wise, but it was picky about how much throttle gave it. Cold starting was trickier than my bike. Took atleast 25 kicks to get it to fire....mines usually 5 at the most. The Cr was setup not to idle which took some getting used to (I have my Kx set to idle for a few seconds before it dies). The Cr seemed to run smoother, throttle response was better and it felt crisper (could have been my jetting...was still tunning it that weekend). The power was good, but not like what I was expecting. I was expecting a big hit when it finally came into the pipe. I like the power of my 500 more, it's got more bottom end and more top...midrange is about the same. As far as the handling, I think they were about the same. His bike has fresher a shock/fork on it. I planned to send mine out to get rebuilt later this year, didn't have the money for it when I redid the motor. The brakes were far better on mine. Although his had drum in the rear. What I like most about his was how smooth the motor ran, almost like it had a counterbalancer. Mine vibrates allot more. That and how crisp the throttle response was. It wasn't enough to make me want to jump ship right away, but it was enough to get me to start looking for a Cr500. My 500 usually breaks something each time out too. Latley it's been pipe mounts (not the ones on the frame, the ones that hold the pipe to the frame mount). It's one of those "nature of the beast" things. For the type of riding I do, either bike would do just fine. I just happend to come across a Kx5 first. I don't have anything against the red bikes (I ride a Cbr1000 on the street), if I come into a deal on a Cr500 I will probably jump on it.

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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2009, 11:45:23 AM »
I own both bikes myself. Love my K5 but I also agree the CR500 runs a little smoother handles a little better, and rarely ever breaks down. I always take them both when I go to the dunes though, cause it dosen't really matter green or red, they both haul A$$.
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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2009, 12:37:58 PM »
I own both bikes myself. Love my K5 but I also agree the CR500 runs a little smoother handles a little better, and rarely ever breaks down. I always take them both when I go to the dunes though, cause it dosen't really matter green or red, they both haul A$$.
WOW both bikes are very nice

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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2009, 04:04:58 PM »
its def your k5 that is running crap  :roll:
and for the way way better kickstart of a cr   
more then one buddys of mine kicked the whole upper case of their cr5 in half..
many of us here have kx for years in a row ,
my kx has never broken down on me like you tell yours does every time you take it out  :|

and for an ol  94 kx thats capable of racing the 01 cr watch me take off against a cr500AF
and i even waited for him for an honest start

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9LT5L9kIIo
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Offline 95formula847

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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2009, 11:47:33 PM »
well im glad to hear that its just my kx5 that runs like poop. Ill be takin it to a shop and havin it completely gone over. Every nut and bolt. Hopefully they will find whats wrong because i need the power i felt on that cr.

And bykas those bikes are very nice!
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Offline KX5MOD

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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2009, 01:54:33 AM »
I dunno, my K-5 is wicked tough :-o
I almost feel bad for what i put this thing through.
I'm not sure what is breaking on yours all the time  :?
I'm fairly anal about upkeep, & i'm sure that helps......but i cannot begin to explain how bad i treat this bike when i ride it.
It is modded, & just plain eats any other dirt bike for breakfast.
My buddy has an 01 CR.....mind you it is stock.
I just plain smoke him at any gear, at any rev.
In stock form on my KX.....engine wise,,,i still roasted him.
But in a MX style circuit....the CR is a dream, & it just plain handles alot better.
Although on long open rides through moderate to open terrain....i always want my bike back....just can't catch it  :x

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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2009, 04:14:38 AM »
I shouldn't say it always breaks. Here is a list of what it usually does on a normal ride.

-I lose numerous bolts/hardware/exhaust springs everytime even with loctite and lock washers
-Hard to start
-Shuts off on me when im in the middle of climbing a crazy hill
-Eats gas twice as fast as the cr500 I rode
-Will surge and bog than take off like a bat out of hell
-Brakes work fine than don't work barely at all
-Wont start in gear like any other bike I have owned
-Crazy shake even at 50mph

Im just gonna have it looked over by a good shop and after that if its doesn't run as good as the CR i rode im probably gonna sell it and buy a CR500
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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2009, 04:23:48 AM »
I definately agree with you on the "eats gas twice as fast as a CR500". Don't know why but I really have to watch the gas when I'm out on my K5 on a long dune ride.

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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2009, 11:06:54 AM »
Oh yea the gas mileage is a huge issue on my bike. In an hour and a half my bike burnt a half tank maybe little more. In the same time and same riding style the CR burnt about a third of a tank. Pretty big difference IMO. Just a rough estimate but at that rate i could ride my KX500 for about 2 hours 45 minutes to 3 hours. The CR would have went 4 hours 30 minutes. That is a lot when your out in the woods 20 miles and you need gas to get back.

And that's not just an estimate cause my uncle is the best woods rider i have ever seen in my life and he says he gets 4 hours to a tank rippin a$$.
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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2009, 12:41:52 PM »

I thing you need to do a complete overhaul on the bike.

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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2009, 12:53:39 PM »
whats the average cost of a complete overhaul
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Re: Rode a cr500 for the weekend..... uh oh
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2009, 12:58:05 AM »
Those of you suffering from poor fuel economy, are you at stock jetting?

My jetting is leaned out, and I am  running a 165 main, and needle clip leaned out 1 position from stock as well, and I did some fun 60 mph logging road blasting this past weekend, and was averaging roughly about 22 mpg. My 500 ran perfect all day. Just my dam feet got so footpeg "buzzed" from the excessive vibration....

oh yea, I lost some bolts as well, luckily nothing serious..
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