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Offline Dutch-K5 Fan

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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2009, 07:43:13 AM »
I started racing when I was 11 and haven't used the clutch since (for shifting).  My 78 husqavarna 390 used to wear the dogs but none of my newer bike have shown any ill effects. My K5 lasted 14 years doing this and still shifts great for the NO.  I do use it when climbing, braking and cornering. My wife and kids don't use it either (but then I guess I taught them). I actually think speed shifting may be harder on the trans but have no proof. I won a race once with the throttle stuck WFO and using the kill button to shift gears. Cam.

So you blimp your throtlle a bit or so than CAM???

I've ridden many track were is't no option to miss when shifting. You just simpley go immediately over the handelbars, so deep was that sand.
It was even hard (not) on my cr125 and 250 to shift WFO on those tracks, without clutch or letting of the gas.
Although letting of ment you risk to see you front fender real close. :)

But maybe it was just me :|



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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2009, 10:02:44 AM »
Dutchie,
  Yes I let off the throttle momentarily (to unload the transmission) then apply the throttle and shift at the same time. Happens to fast it looks like I am blipping the throttle. Cam.

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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2009, 10:54:44 PM »
When I raced 125's years ago, clutchless shifting was almost mandatory to maintain momentum. Once you learn the exact technique, you pose no harm of accelerated wear on the shift dogs.
I race 125cc shifter karts with a CR125 powerplant, and with karts, you only use the hand clutch to stop and start. Like others commented you simply make one perfectly synchronized motion:  unload the gearbox by abruptly letting off throttle, abruptly shift into the next gear, back hard on the gas. Once you have the technique dialed in, you will see almost no rpm loss, and the actuall shift will feel very smooth. If the shift feels notchy, or you feel resistance, your not unloading the gearbox correctly (I am also shifting my kart consistantly at 12,300 rpm's), and kart racers go  years without a tranny rebuild
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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2009, 04:12:51 AM »
If you have afford by Starlane powershift VX and a battery (12v 1,3a) in airbox and problem solved! :wink:
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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2009, 04:31:02 AM »
so i was talking to  a friend about the Recluse(not sure on spelling)cluch setup. i watched a couple of they're videos, money wise its out of the question(right now) but i was wondering if this is just going to far on the lazy scale? i dont know. it look cool and seemed to work well
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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2009, 04:54:48 AM »
How about a link to the videos?
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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2009, 06:05:31 AM »
I have ridden with the recluse.  It is not for me but when you get into an ugly ugly ugly spot, there is nothing better. Cam.

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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2009, 06:39:19 AM »
Just this morning I was checking out an old gravel pit to ride in and a guy road up to me on a CR500, as I watched him make his way over to me through some pretty loose stuff I noticed how he made it look easy, when he got to me we started talking and it turns out he had a Rekluse and couldnt say enough good about it, he was walkin a big bore 2 stroke like it was a 4 stroke...Very cool
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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2009, 05:24:22 AM »
If you have afford by Starlane powershift VX and a battery (12v 1,3a) in airbox and problem solved! :wink:



Looks great Doordie. Top  line stuff. Only ?350,- here in Holland!!!



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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2009, 05:28:29 AM »
what is that in US$ :?
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Offline Dutch-K5 Fan

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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2009, 05:53:32 AM »
what is that in US$ :?

$475,-!!!! The link for US sales point

http://www.yoyodyneti.com/category.aspx?categoryID=2881



And Rekluse, they don't have one for the K5 :cry:

http://www.rekluse.com/

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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2009, 06:07:05 AM »
thats probley why i could not find a listing for it(the rekluse). thats terrible
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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2009, 04:56:14 AM »
Got one on my WR, great piece of equipment
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Re: shifting with out cluching?
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2009, 08:57:58 AM »
i e-mailed rekluse& asked if they would/do make one for the k5. im still waiting on a response. i'll keep u posted if i get one
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