looks like i was wrong about a couple things in my previous post. found this online, ktm is still partnering with polaris and they are developing an atv. for their european markets primarily. sounds like they are kind of feeling out the waters with their outlaw 525. check out polaris.com for info on the 525. they have video clips and that thing looks and acts like an absolute beast. around $7000 in the USA. MADDOGGY