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Offline AJ

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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2007, 05:06:05 AM »
yes ,,
thats how they wil be sourced most likely..

I've been working with Kaw for awhile on this actuially, and lurking around here a year or so..;)

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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2007, 04:56:39 PM »
AJ, the work you do on the 500AFs is first class.  I think what impresses me and most people is the fact that it doesn't look monster garage built.  They look like they came right off the Honda (and soon Kawi) assembly line.  VERY impressive!  Thanks again AJ for sharing your newest creation.  :wink:

Now is there any way to coerce some pro riders onto one of these bikes? It would be cool if the AMA opened up Motocross class to Open and have someone ride a 500 again.  :roll:
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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2007, 06:11:20 AM »
Any attempts at using the cr kickstarter?I love the shape of that one. 

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« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2007, 07:55:21 AM »
Thanks--
abnd i've tried a few kickstarters..

the old KX 500 engine uses a very fine spline kickstarter output shaft--

most every manufactuer (including Kaw) switched to a much larger spline-
 on any current decade ,making it a challenge to find a simple bolt on replacement.

it is a prototype--
and i'm still working on it though ,
and will keep looking into different ones ,,
or rebroching a more modern kickstater "knuckle" to fit the old *fine* spline..
or it's possible to make a new kickstart shaft and heat treat it properly.. with a corrected spline for a new style kick arm knuckle.
( i did exactly this for the ATV that i make SH TRX250R )

anyway it depends on what works out, and what is truly needed,
 verses the added costs..  :wink:
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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2007, 05:15:43 PM »
Thanks--
abnd i've tried a few kickstarters..

the old Kai 500 engine usies a very fine spline kickstarter out put shaft--

mmost every manufactuer (including Kaw) ewen tto a much larger spline on any current decade bike..
unforunatly..

it is a prototype--
and i'm still working on it though and will keep looking into different ones ,, or rebrochin ga more modern kinstater "knuckle" to fit theold spline..
or even its possible to make a new kickstart shaft and heat treat it properly.. with a corrected spline for a new style kikarm knuckle00

( i did exactly this for the ATV that i make SH TRX250R )

anyway it depends on what works oyt, and what is truly needed verses the added costs..  :wink:

Are you typing while drinking :D

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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2007, 04:12:22 AM »
LOL!  :-D
no! i wasn't drinking!

but wow, one finger typing ,in a hurry , leaves  one big mess of typos! :-o
 kind of looks like i used my elbow instead.
sorry  :|

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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2007, 09:38:24 AM »
LOL!  :-D
no! i wasn't drinking!

but wow, one finger typing ,in a hurry , leaves  one big mess of typos! :-o
 kind of looks like i used my elbow instead.
sorry  :|
I thought maybe you were typing with your feet while you were working on the bike.

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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2007, 01:30:01 AM »
No big deal AJ. My typing sucks and I sit at computers all day.. Thank God for grammer and spell check. Again, can't wait for the end product.. I might just have to grab me one of these, when released. Depeneding on the wife tho, she will more than likely make me dump a bike first. :'(

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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2007, 08:35:07 AM »
at least they still coment on it, everyone just expects me not to make any sence  :wink:

hey paul we should get a spel cecker

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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2007, 12:41:04 AM »
and at that time  i'll also likely  do a newer style digital ignition/CDI  ,

(like i did for the CR500AFX ,(and stock CR500's)
that follows the OEM stock CDI mapping but runs a bit cleaner and crisper, and starts easier. and adds the ability to have 120 watts of lights)

Methinks there will be a market for that item amongst those of us who have a standard frame also :-)

The lighting coil aspect especially.

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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2007, 02:33:56 AM »
demo-
thanks for the feedback and thats what i was thinking..
as like you brought up ,
that CR  500AFX system has done well with the CR500 steelie frame riders as well .

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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2007, 07:17:24 AM »
demo-
thanks for the feedback and thats what i was thinking..
as like you brought up ,
that CR  500AFX system has done well with the CR500 steelie frame riders as well .

As I don't know anything about it could you tell me if it provides an AC current or a three phase (usually three yellow output wires) output like most roadbikes have?

AC is nice but if like me you want lights that don't go dim when the revs drop you need to change it to half wave rectified current before it goes to a battery but three phase (whilst still needing to go through a rectifier) is better suited to battery use as it provides less trough in the waveform and higher RMS voltage if I remember it right.

Also if you say that the ignition is digital does that mean that its also programmable?

is it to be a lighter or heavier flywheel or just the same?

Sorry if some of these questions sound a bit daft but I don't know anything about the product you alreadyhave for the CR.

regards Scott.

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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2007, 02:26:27 PM »
I really want to ride my bike to work once a week. This lighting system and an Oregon plate might be the answer.

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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2007, 07:22:57 AM »
The current CR setup
is two yellows out ,on the lighting coil output side, AC.
its a *true 130 watts* (not split) system.

it is availible with either a DC regulator,(if you want it with a battery application)  or AC regulator.
it works well in both applications

It runs with a DC reg and battery , on our CR500AFX..
(since the bike already has the batt,and batt box)

however I have run it AC,  on a standard CR500AF, CR500R,
and it never dims with your somewhat  typical 55wat headlight bulb even at idle, it is full bright..

of course with a higher wattage bulb that might change ...
havnt tested that yet.
but as mentioned you could always run the DC regulator ,
and a small batt if wanted , or needed?


on the CDI mapping ,
 it is not progamable.. but i was thinking of having
it be swicthable, and offer  two curves

the flywheel is 4 oz heavier

The KX system isnt designed yet, but would mimic the CR setup.

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Re: KX500AF
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2007, 02:23:05 AM »
AJ would you be able to just sell the frame (modifided to except the 500 motor), plastic,shock, triple clamps, and forks?