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Offline YUNGGUNNAZ

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« on: October 08, 2005, 12:28:57 AM »
who has the baddest and fastest kx5 out there in your opinion?member, friend,yourself maybe.just for fun discussion.

Offline Arigato

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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2005, 02:33:59 AM »
Probably Gowen.  If he still is running the 520 kit.  I was running the same thing before I cracked the cylinder (it was heavily ported too) and that was the fastest dirtbike I had ever ridden.  It would do wheelies in 5th gear going DOWN sand dunes.  Altitude, incline, it doesn't matter with the 520.

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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2005, 02:46:47 AM »
yes he says he was fast.untouchable.with the post i've read on his machine he has good stuff.i was wondering where he races sand drag at?there's a young lady that races at local track from Wva. that's awesome.this is 400ft.

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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2005, 12:31:01 PM »
I'm glad Ricky Charmichael doesnt have one. That guy would be fast with just two tires and a spark plug.
  Wish I could ride like him. Has any manufacturor ever made a dirt bike with larger than 500 cc ?
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2005, 03:43:17 PM »
seems like ATK(i thing thats right) had a 700 or 770 not  to long ago.could be wrong on the mfg.

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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2005, 02:31:59 AM »
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seems like ATK(i thing thats right) had a 700 or 770 not  to long ago.could be wrong on the mfg.

I talked to the ATK CEO at length last year and he said that the 620  Intimidator was there best 2 Stroke! I was thinking about getting just one last monster 2 stroke before they disappear!

http://www.atkusa.com/ProductsIntimidator.aspx

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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2005, 11:09:37 AM »
Mmmmmm.... Thats me! Are they not being made any more?
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2005, 12:17:17 PM »
Holy smokes did you see the 620 and the 700 have compression releases. Im thinking my next bike will be a 250 2-stroke or the K5. BTW how much taller is the 500 vs the 250/ or 125?

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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2005, 04:10:34 AM »
I would just like to point out that those ATKs are pretty much Maico's and are avaliable (in very limited numbers indeed) over here.

There's a 500, a 620 and a 685 cc model the Maico engine is also sold as an engine for sidecar motocross and is badged up as a Zabel engine (in 700cc version).

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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2005, 07:01:02 AM »
Anything much over 600cc's in a two stroke will slow it down, due to the mass of the piston. The ATK 700cc would only rev to like 3500rpms and would put it all to the ground. I remember reading an article about it saying it was pretty much a flop, due to the overall weight.

If you are going to go to those sizes, you seriously need to consider an inline twin. But then you have to deal with the mass and weight of the engine. Both ways, a 500 is VERY capable of running the same 1/8th mile as an inline four 1000cc bike with minor mods.

The biggest improvement you can do, powerwise, is correct the jetting. Then comes the huge list of extras that give minor, but add up. So, with that said, if you are not getting a small amount of surging, your jetting is off. Call me crazy, but I get all kinds of surging and I can run a faster 1/8 (1/4th mile gearing permitted) lap than my street bike ('05 R1). That's performance.

I do local drags for fun in Smithfield, NC at an ATV park with a 1/4mile dirt drag strip. Mainly drag Alky and in-line four (600-1000) quads. But every now and then will get a KX500 or CR500. Most sit back and watch though. For racing, I head up to Burkeville, Virgina and race a 1/8th mile grass strip.

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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2005, 07:46:39 AM »
?? how does a KX500 run a faster 1/4mile than an R1?? I would have thought the power to weight ratio and traction would be in the R1's favour??? What sort of horsepower are you getting out of your 500?

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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2005, 08:59:43 AM »
Power to weight ratio.

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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2005, 09:18:24 AM »
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?? how does a KX500 run a faster 1/4mile than an R1?? I would have thought the power to weight ratio and traction would be in the R1's favour??? What sort of horsepower are you getting out of your 500?


Both being heavily modified - DOT tires on both.

Stock R1 = 1 hp per every 2.64 pound. (410 in weight and 155hp)
Stock KX = 1 hp per every 3.49 pound. (220 in weight and 63hp)

Consider that the KX500 is a two stroke and is quick to make the power, while the in-line takes four cylinders to catch up to the HP. An advantage is that the inline has a large 1st gear and the single 2t has short quick gears.

Both bikes are running race fuel (R1 = Spirits 100MON KX500 = C12 108MON) and have the heads cut for the fuel and heavily modified in every way possible esides Alky and NOS.  :twisted: and have been pushed to the maximum limit before causing a seizure (well went over the the KX  :roll: ) and the KX will still beat it in the 1/8th mile by a good few bike lengths. Two stroke and four stroke horsepower are two diffrent animals.

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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2005, 12:46:44 PM »
Power to weight ratio is certainly a beautiful thing! Specially on the Kx500. Traction on the other hand...
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2005, 02:28:47 PM »
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Traction on the other hand...


Is usally an issue, especially when you start to spike the powercurve, but still not a loss, just need to learn the technique of (A heating up the tire (B learning to control it and use it to your advantage. (there isn't really one, but just making the best of it)