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For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« on: June 10, 2015, 12:32:04 PM »
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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2015, 06:15:00 PM »
I contacted our supplier and as is understandable they do not have any control over what they get sent.
That is why I am not naming the suppliers name as they are good people.
However, they are going to contact Kawasaki and see if this is something normal.
Updates as they become available...
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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2015, 09:15:59 PM »
http://www.cmsnl.com/kawasaki-1992-e4-kx500_model11977/ball-bearing_920451235/#.VXvvnPlViko :-)
they should not have it in a made in japan pack though
Same bearing 6001c3 used on honda water pump 25%more expencive but made in japan
http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cr500r-1994-european-direct-salescmf_model2871/bbrg-rad-ncom-ntn_91001ka4003/#.VXv0dPlViko

Waste of cash buying oem bearings for the tranny,  even the one with the grove is 7ball instead of 8ball on most 6203/no grove


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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2015, 01:59:04 AM »
Yeah we know that we can get them cheaper at the bearing house.
Motorrad did a crossover list for the K5 which is very helpful.
So it looks like we are going to have to go back to buying them at the bearing house instead of buying OEM.
It just takes more time and some of the bearings are only available through OEM.
All because the pencil pushers are trying to save a few bucks over the longevity of our builds  :x
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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2015, 06:34:20 AM »
There is a huge misconception that OEM means highest quality.  They assemble their machines with quality enough to still make a profit.  Aftermarket are made to meet or exceed OEM quality.  If OEM was already the best no standard would need to be exceeded.  Who knows how long OEM has been sitting in a warehouse, somewhere.
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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2015, 08:26:39 AM »
You need to watch your eBay / parts house sourced bearings too though. I bought FAG bearings from an eBay seller, Locatebearings , thinking oh yeah German bearings & when it arrived just China bearings in a FAG box. Really if you don't see in the listing the country of manufacture etched right into the bearing race , ask because ALOT of the quality brands are just boxing China made bearings.


& right on Locatebearings site counterfeit bearings

http://www.locateballbearings.com/ball-bearing-suppliers.html
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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2015, 12:27:04 PM »
Quote from: alward25 on June 13, 2015, 06:34:20 AM
Aftermarket are made to meet or exceed OEM quality.

Cometic gaskets are a prime example of that.
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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2016, 11:46:30 AM »
No update was ever given on this issue...
So, I stopped using this supplier and started getting all my parts from our local Kawasaki dealer...

Guess what?
They are using the same Chinese bearing...
It says "CHINA" on the bearing and once again the packaging says "Made in Japan"



Come on Kawasaki....  :x :x :x :x
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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2016, 12:05:50 PM »
Quote from: sandblaster on May 12, 2016, 11:46:30 AM
No update was ever given on this issue...
So, I stopped using this supplier and started getting all my parts from our local Kawasaki dealer...

Guess what?
They are using the same Chinese bearing...
It says "CHINA" on the bearing and once again the packaging says "Made in Japan"



Come on Kawasaki....  :x :x :x :x

Deceitful and sad!
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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2016, 12:35:24 PM »
The packaging it came in was made in Japan?...... :?

Everything I touch is made in China now  :x

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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2016, 01:05:16 PM »
Yep... same as a year ago... LIES!!
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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2016, 12:52:19 AM »
wow that sucks! ofcourse you want good quality bearings! especially on older year models. but not everything from china is bad quality just like not everything from japan is good, but i agree it's dishonest an misleading to label the bearings wrong. is there another brand for good quality bearings? shouldnt any bearing work if you have the right specifications?
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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2016, 01:44:26 AM »
Of course your right... When I was a kid, all the cheap junk toys came from Japan  :-D
The problem with Chinese bearings is that they do not follow in legal terms the same definitions for bearing type, that the rest of US, Europe, Japan, ect follow.
They can make a bearing and sell it to whatever standard they want to... and often do...
It's possible that under the NSK brand and hopefully NSK supervision, they are making a good product, time will tell.
I just don't want experiment with Chinese bearings in my builds.
If I did I would just get a Wiseco or Hot Rods kit and call it good.
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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2016, 07:20:02 AM »
Quote from: sandblaster on May 13, 2016, 01:44:26 AM
I just don't want experiment with Chinese bearings in my builds.
If I did I would just get a Wiseco or Hot Rods kit and call it good.

Bingo!!
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Re: For NSK bearing company Made in Japan means made in China
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2016, 12:45:43 PM »
i just orderd a new bearing along with a shiftshaft so that i can get the 450 shift lever, reading this makes me worried that ill get a useless chineese bearing, i might just be the guenie-pig for testing the chineese bearing :-o
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