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« on: March 19, 2005, 01:21:51 AM »
'02 500 or new red or blue 450 ? what are some pros / cons
will a 500 hold up ? i am die hard Green lover but all my buds are on 450s and i have been out of action for 5 yrs.

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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2005, 01:30:27 AM »
What type of riding? Off-road or track. The 500 is very reliable. Which 450's are you looking at yz450's or the wr450f's? Get the big kx500 and be the king of the off-road world.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2005, 05:45:27 AM »
Price difference. I've ridden the Wr 450 but not the Yz. I was not a great fan after jumping off the 500 and on to what seemed like half the horse power. Also it felt very ridgid through the bars. People say the Kx500 is outdated. I say unless your at the top of the moto X feild of riders, youd would be hard pressed to find a better bike. We go to rides round here with 300 to500 riders and I,m only ever passed by the top 1/2 dozen or so riders. Who are gonna get passed you wheather they are on a Yz/Wr or a Kx125. Also the maintainance. Kx500s would have to be cheaper to keep running. Without all the 4 stroke valves cam chains ect.. But that is just my 5 cents worth.
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2005, 05:46:32 AM »
Off road, i would be going up against CR and YZ

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2005, 05:59:10 AM »
I rekon its 98% rider and 2% bike. To me the kx5 is avery capable machine.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2005, 06:09:26 AM »
Well you know what they say about opinions! :roll:

What has half the moving parts, cost less and fires every revolution?

Answer: KX500 - KX500 - KX500


I guess if I was going to race I maybe could see one of the big bore 4 Strokes!

Maybe its just because I have ridden 2 strokes for 45 years!

Nothing like A KX500 for flat out desert riding!

I plan to be barried in full riding gear on my KX!

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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2005, 06:20:47 AM »
WOW tell us about the old two strokes. British?
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2005, 07:01:57 AM »
MOSH,
  Difficult decision.  Also depends on if you moto all the time or bush ride.  I was in the same spot a couple of years ago, sitting in a coffee shop across from the honda dealer with $10K in my pocket.  Buy or fix up my '92 500! I sat for an hour but couldn't come up with enough things that a new 4-stroke would do that much better than my '92 500, worth the $10K.  Bought a speed boat instead.  Here are some things to think about:

 1. 500 has more power. Extra power for a 450 comes in $1000 increments.  Nothing I like better than passing a new 450 with a $1000 titanium pipe on my '92. Definitely a holeshot machine.
2. In real weight on a scale, 500 is probably 15-20 lbs lighter.
3. 500 gets more hours out of a top end than a 450 and is cheaper to rebuild(lots cheaper).
4. 500 takes lots less maintenance.
5. 500 is quieter.
6. 500 Starts better.

450 has:
1. better suspension but that can be fixed with a revalve.
2. Looks cooler but some new plastic and graphocs can mostly fix that up.
3. Turns better. That can be mostly fixed up with chassis setup and proper tires.
4. Likely to be faster on an MX track.
5. Simply newer looking.

It's a tough decision.  All I know is, when I ride in a big group of mixed bikes, my 500 is the one at the top waiting for the others.  Hope this helps a bit. Cam.

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2005, 02:33:06 PM »
I say unless your a serious MXer or GP rider, the KX500 is the way to go.  You simply cannot have an easier bike to maintain that a KX500.  As for power?  I raced a GP here in California today that was more like a Baja race and I passed a whole lot of 450s on the 2 mile straight aways with stock 14/47 gearing.  KX500 all the way!!!
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2005, 02:07:57 AM »
Thanks everyone. I have heard enough. I am going green again.

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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2005, 02:24:09 PM »
Most of the folks I know (that are still buying their own bikes) that switched to four strokes, have returned to two strokes after the "fad" was done.  While we will probably all be on four strokes in the future, I will stay with the 250 or 500 KX until they don't make parts anymore.

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2005, 07:52:38 PM »
What Rick said!