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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #120 on: February 09, 2015, 03:15:34 PM »
Clutch cover isn't wanting to sit down against the crankcase.   Traced it back to the shift shaft, which seems like it is sticking out a couple mm's too much.  The spring & white plastic collar move in a bit -- the shaft itself is what's binding the cover up. 

Anyone want to hazard a guess why?














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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #121 on: February 09, 2015, 05:40:01 PM »
ouch that sux someone will have an idea  :|       are you using the original shaft?  Did you have to take much material off if u lapped that clutch case.    :?

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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #122 on: February 09, 2015, 11:21:27 PM »
ouch that sux someone will have an idea  :|       are you using the original shaft?  Did you have to take much material off if u lapped that clutch case.    :?
  Took next to nothing off.  Rubbed the case halves for only a few seconds, not for 30 minutes. Nothing bound up when putting the centercases together and the transmission works smoothly with the engine in a box and just manually rotating the crank & working through gears.


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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #123 on: February 10, 2015, 04:01:45 AM »
That little washer you couldn't find? Found it!  :lol:
I have no idea and have taken stuff like this apart, found nothing, put it back together and all is well with no explanation for it.
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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #124 on: February 10, 2015, 04:11:15 AM »
I ordered a NOS shift shaft from CMSL (along with the spring and white plastic collar).   The current shaft's splines are a little rough, so I figured it wouldn't hurt to replace.

When I get time I'll pull the clutch pack and see what I can see when I pull the old shift shaft out.   

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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #125 on: February 10, 2015, 02:44:31 PM »
Sigh of relief.  The metal inner collar that goes on the shift shaft slipped out of place.   Cases will close up nicely now.





Glad I ordered a new shift shaft though.. this one is buggered to hell. 



Front brakes are bled and tight.  Can't wait to see how they work with the steel braided line & RM125 master cylinder.


Rear wheel ready to be installed next:



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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #126 on: February 10, 2015, 04:54:59 PM »
Glad to see you sorted out the shift shaft.
The newer style master cylinders used a larger diameter plunger of 11mm.
They do provide a bit more braking with less finger pull.
I've even thought about making a 13mm plunger just for kicks.....
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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #127 on: February 10, 2015, 06:48:23 PM »
If you want more braking you need to do the opposite on the master cyl, go smaller or alternatively go bigger on the caliper or slave cyl pistons, works the same as sprocket ratios, hydraulic pressure ratio.

The smaller the actuating piston(brake lever) is with relation to the reacting piston(caliper or clutch), gives you more power on the reacting piston with less effort on the actuating piston, but less travel on the reacting piston & more on the activating piston, but seeing as a disc brake caliper only has to travel a fraction it does not matter so much & the gains on braking force with less hand effort are a big plus.
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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #128 on: February 10, 2015, 07:17:43 PM »
Ah... your right.... after I stopped and thought about it for about 2 seconds... I just kept thinking about the newer brakes having a larger master piston diameter.... but they also have a larger brake rotor diameter which would help offset the larger master piston diameter...
I also did some looking at caliper pistons and didn't find any with DLC.
Seems to me that slicker is better there.
A lot of poor performing brakes we find is the caliper seals and pistons being gummed up.
Disassemble, clean, reassemble, and bleed, works wonders.
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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #129 on: February 10, 2015, 09:25:40 PM »
glad to hear u got it sorted out

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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #130 on: February 10, 2015, 11:45:52 PM »
Ah... your right.... after I stopped and thought about it for about 2 seconds... I just kept thinking about the newer brakes having a larger master piston diameter.... but they also have a larger brake rotor diameter which would help offset the larger master piston diameter...
I also did some looking at caliper pistons and didn't find any with DLC.
Seems to me that slicker is better there.
A lot of poor performing brakes we find is the caliper seals and pistons being gummed up.
Disassemble, clean, reassemble, and bleed, works wonders.

I half expect to rebuild both front and rear calipers, and should probably do that anyway.   Is there a decent writeup on oem-cycle or youtube?

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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #131 on: February 11, 2015, 04:24:33 PM »
Rear wheel installed and brake bled.  Hub is a little dirty still.. not too worried, not putting $500+ more dollars in the toilet on new rims/hubs.  Maybe the next owner can get some black ones or something.   :-P


Bike as it sits on Feb 11.   Airbox next, then maybe rear fender & silencer.



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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #132 on: February 11, 2015, 04:35:26 PM »
I half expect to rebuild both front and rear calipers, and should probably do that anyway.   Is there a decent writeup on oem-cycle or youtube?

I should do a write up but I'm sure there is one on youtube..
If you can't find one let me know and I will write up a quickie rebuild..
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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #133 on: February 11, 2015, 04:37:38 PM »
Both front & rear feel tight tonight (vacuum bled) so we'll see how they do once the pads wear in a bit. 

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Re: 1989 kx125 restoration master thread
« Reply #134 on: February 11, 2015, 04:44:53 PM »
Let me know...
The four stroke engine: That's one stroke for producing power and three for wearing the engine out.