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Slo-Mo

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Should I jet (or re-jet) a new KX500?
« on: December 08, 2004, 10:36:28 AM »
Hey guys-

I need some expert advice before I do the break-in on my '04 KX500. First, the bike doesn't idle at all-no big deal, and I really don't care too much about it, but thought I would mention it anyway. What I want to know is: should I attempt to jet (or re-jet) the carb before I do the break-in procedure? The engine has MAYBE a total of 10 minutes running time on it at the present time. I will be breaking the engine in in approximately the following manner: 15 minutes of 0 to maximum of 1/4 throttle range, cool down to ambient temp. 15 minutes of 1/4 to 3/4 throttle range, cool to ambient temp. 15 minutes full range throttle closed to WFO, cool to ambient temp. Any other suggestions on break-in? And should I attempt to re-jet? It's winter time here in California (cooler, denser air), my altitude above sea level is approximately 1200 feet. Anything else I should add?

Thanks for your help!

Greg

neverendingmods

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Should I jet (or re-jet) a new KX500?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2004, 04:47:30 PM »
Took my 04 500 some time to break in.  Mine would not idle either.   I did some pipe/muffler/airfilter and jet changes to mine in the first 3 mos.  I was given TeamGreen 04 setting guide as a reference. REFERENCE only.  I ran mix at 32-1 for first 4 tanks.  Excessive and plug costly.  Use this link(if still a link) and definately lower the pilot jet a bit.  Expensive compared to main but read your stock one first and go 1-2 down(58 to a 52 or 55)

http://www.teamgreennews.ca/pdf/2004_jetting_chart.pdf

Slo-Mo

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Should I jet (or re-jet) a new KX500?
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2004, 04:15:35 AM »
NEMods-

Thanks for the link, it still exists. I think I'll be breaking in the engine using Bel-Ray MC-1 at 40:1 instead of what the manual suggests (32:1) just to make sure I don't go through 3 or 4 plugs during the break-in. In the past, (YZ-465, RM-500, CR-500) I've broken in the engines using a non-synthetic oil. This is the first time I will be using a synthetic oil for break-in. Any suggestions? Should I use Bel-Ray HR1 instead since it's designed to work with powervalved 2-stokes? Should I get new reeds before I even break in the engine? Lots of questions, I know. All suggestions are welcome AND encouraged.

Thanks!

Greg

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Should I jet (or re-jet) a new KX500?
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2004, 05:35:47 AM »
Slo-Mo,
  Great bike you got there.  Jetting is probably the best single thing you can do for the KX.  I would recommend breaking it in a bit first before you re-jet.  Doesn't really matter, but the bike will respond better to jetting changes once it is broken in a bit.  Belray MC1 is great oil.  I switched from MC1 to H1R in mine for about 5 years but have recently switched back to my favorite MC1 - too much spooge with the H1R which went away instantly when I switched.  I always break my bikes in with MC1 at the usual 50:1. sometimes maybe 40:1 for a tank.   My typical ride mix is MC1 at 60:1.  I used to race at 85:1 so no problems.  For jetting specs, look in the downloads section.  There is a chart that is right on the money, almost a set it and forget it.  Good luck and have fun. Cam.

Slo-Mo

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Should I jet (or re-jet) a new KX500?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2004, 06:19:36 AM »
Thanks, Cam. 60:1 seems a bit lean to me, but I may try it after the engine is broken in. I know that the first time I started the bike (with the fuel/oil ratio mixed and supplied by the dealer) the bike smoked like a cheap cigar. I shut off the engine, cleaned the 5 gallons of air filter oil off the air filter, re-greased the seal and oiled the filter lightly, and called it a day. Maybe I'll modify my original 40:1 to 45:1-I just don't want to ruin the ring(s) before the engine is broken in. Call me anal, but I also took apart the swingarm and steering head, cleaned and re-greased the swingarm and shock linkages and steering head bearings and also the wheel bearings. Wasn't much grease to begin with-I know the dangers of too much and too little, so hopefully that won't be a worry for awhile. Anyways, thanks for the suggestions. They are much appreciated.

Greg

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Should I jet (or re-jet) a new KX500?
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2004, 08:59:03 AM »
Run it rich (stock jetting) untill its broke in ,then rejet and change the plug.I run Maxima super-m at 40:1,but Id even run 32:1 at break in.Keep an eye on loose bolts (locktight),clean air filter,I run a magnetic drain plug,I regrease EVERYTHING,fuel filters a good idea.Have fun!

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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2004, 01:31:38 PM »
SLo-mo,
  Glad you took the time to take it apart.  I found out that Kaw doesn't use much grease when the rust started coming out. Yikes.  I like running them lean but 50:1 is a good mix.  The old MC-1 bottles used to have an 85:1 chart on the back (was the recommended mix).  I talked to them about it once and they switched to 50:1 on the bottle because it was more acceptable to the public.  Mike is right about the loctite. As a rule of thumb I locktite everything with steel threads and use anti-seize on everything with aluminum threads. I have yet to lose a part. Cam.

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Should I jet (or re-jet) a new KX500?
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2004, 08:01:16 AM »
Silicone the air box and all wire connections.I also use dialetic grease on all wire connections,seal the mag cover and remove it once in a while and give it a shot of WD.Cams got the idea with anti/never-seize,it makes working on the bike so much easier and stops the rust.Change the tranny oil dur
ring break in and be careful with the drain plug,strips easy.Thats why a magnetic plug is a good idea,catches the metal particles and can be safety wired on,I could go on and on,but this gets you on a good start.