Nothing bad to say about the man himself. Ive met him before and he seemed like a nice guy, dont know him though. The guards have gotten thinner and more brittle since farming the production off to China. Ive been racing enduros since the mid 80s, decently fast A rider, and have used both versions of the Eline guards. My 02 YZ250 was used to make the original Eline pipeguard, skid plate, frame guards etc. for that model year. The China guards just dont hold up. Obviously out of convenience, loyalty etc. people from NETRA would go to him. Just like people from the ECEA go to P3 to get their guards. Ill try to post a pic of a pretty much shattered China Eline for a Gnarly and a P3. The differance is very noticeable.