dino im talking about the desert guys. like i look at abbotts bike and his pegs are much farther mounted out then looks stock. i saw abbotts bike this saturday at endurocross and even it have the pegs out farther. not the peg its self but where it mounts. i didnt get much of a look at it but it looks like it would be a better set up for me. i'm 6'5 265lbs so im a naturally big guy and i do what i can to make a bike feel good on me. unfortunately for me i hate 4 strokes so all the ktm 525's xr650's and "big" bikes are not in my future. so im trying my best to make my 500 n 250's fit the best.