On a similar note, I never gave much thought to how ridiculously thin the hip pads are in my AXO riding pants (1/8"). That was until I recently crashed on my hip in a big pile of rocks. After limping around work for a couple of weeks (and generally feeling sorry for myself) I bought some 3/8" aerolite closed cell foam at a foam shop ($4) and built thicker pads. Used the old ones as a template, glued on some velcro, and cut a grid pattern (3/16" deep) with razor knife on the outside for more flexibility. Havent crashed them yet but they sure feel better than the "tissue paper" originals. Cam.